As we menÂtioned two weeks ago, Tony Judt, a promiÂnent hisÂtoÂriÂan and pubÂlic intelÂlecÂtuÂal, has been grapÂpling with ALS (othÂerÂwise known as Lou Gehrig’s disÂease) since 2008. With the disÂease now takÂing its toll, Judt has gone more pubÂlic and startÂed pubÂlishÂing with more urgency. On MonÂday, he was interÂviewed by TerÂry Gross on NPR’s Fresh Air (lisÂten below, here or on iTunes). Of the many items disÂcussed, one parÂticÂuÂlarÂly struck me. When Gross asked whether hisÂtoÂry still matÂtered deeply to him, the hisÂtoÂriÂan answered: yes, but:
I think now, I’m more worÂried about the future. The past is always going to be a mess. It’s going to be a mess because it was mess and because peoÂple are going to abuse it, get it wrong and so on. But I’m reaÂsonÂably conÂfiÂdent that with each genÂerÂaÂtion of hisÂtoÂriÂans, we keep fightÂing hard to get it right again. But we could get the future very seriÂousÂly wrong, and there it’s much hardÂer to get it right… I’m encounÂterÂing the first genÂerÂaÂtion of young peoÂple in colÂleges and schools who realÂly do not believe in the future, who don’t think not just that things will get eviÂdentÂly and perÂmaÂnentÂly betÂter but who feel that someÂthing has gone very badÂly wrong that they can’t quite put their finÂger on, but that is going to spoil the world that they’re growÂing up into.
Whether it’s cliÂmate change or politÂiÂcal cynÂiÂcism or overÂreÂacÂtion or lack of reacÂtion, to exterÂnal chalÂlenges, whether it’s terÂrorÂism or poverÂty, the sense that it’s all got out of conÂtrol, that they, the politiÂcians and so on, media peoÂple, are neiÂther doing anyÂthing nor telling us the truth. That sense seems to have perÂvadÂed the younger genÂerÂaÂtion in ways that were not true in my expeÂriÂence.
Maybe the last time that might have been true was in the 1920s, where you had the comÂbiÂnaÂtion of shock and anger from World War I, the beginÂnings of ecoÂnomÂic depresÂsion and the terÂriÂfyÂing realÂizaÂtion that there might very well be a World War II. I don’t think we’re on the edge of World War III or IV. But I do think that we are on the edge of a terÂriÂfyÂing world. That’s why I wrote the book [Ill Fares the Land].
The first chapÂter of Ill Fares the Land is now availÂable (for free) on The New York Times webÂsite, and it will give you a quick feel for the issues that Judt thinks we need to conÂfront. The comÂplete Fresh Air interÂview ranges much more broadÂly, going into Judt’s perÂsonÂal expeÂriÂence with ALS, and I’d encourÂage you to give it your time. (Stream below.) Also please visÂit Move For ALS to conÂtribute to a new camÂpaign affilÂiÂatÂed with Tony Judt to fund ALS research.
Hi,
Thank you very much for the tranÂscripÂtion of this part of the interÂview.
I used it in a post I just did and gave you the credÂit.